Big Sean is opening up about his relationship with his longtime girlfriend, Jhené Aiko.

While on Charlamagne Tha God’s podcast, “Out of Context,” the rapper talked about why he has not married Aiko yet and if there is a possibility of a secret marriage soon. “No, no there has not been a secret industry marriage,” Sean said. “It’s a little personal, you know what I mean? But just like to be real with you, just like any people who have dealt with love, we’ve had our ups and downs, you know what I’m saying? And I think it’s still finding the right navigation through it all.”

He goes on to clarify that “marriage symbolizes the best relationship” and believes that “having a relationship is first and foremost.” Big Sean continued, “I feel like a lot of people get the ideas of like, ‘Oh, you have to get married,’ but then it’s like, to me, that’s almost a fear-based way of thinking, too. Because then people be getting divorced. The divorce rate’s so f**king high.”

Although he didn’t go in-depth about his relationship, he did say that marriage is still a possibility. “I feel I can only speak for myself that there needs to be more work done so we could keep going.” Big Sean and Jhené Aiko first got together in 2016, shortly after she divorced producer Polo da Genius. In 2022, the couple welcomed their son, Noah, making him the rapper’s first child. Aiko has a 15-year-old daughter, Namiko, who she shares with her ex-boyfriend, O’Ryan.

Watch the full interview below.